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just a few minutes left now. >> and we wrap it up as always with best advice. here's christine. >> a little fashion advice from the president of j. crew, jenna lyons. >> the best advice i ever received was to hire people that are smarter than you. >> so that's not fashion advice, always surround yourself by people who are doing and hire someone who's smarter than you. >> they made the belt and the shoes that michelle obama wore the day of the inauguration. >> that's right. >> that is all for "early start." i'm john berman. >> look at the fashionista. >> "starting pointing" with soledad o'brien starts right now. welcome, everybody. our starting pointing this morning, a deadly and dangerous arctic blast. bone-chilling temperatures wreak havoc from the south to new england and it's only getting worse. we've got live team coverage ahead this morning.
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new this morning, nuclear threats from north korea against the united states. we'll tell you what the defiant nation is saying now it will do. and today is the day former notre dame star manti te'o speaking out about his fake girlfriend and why he didn't come forward sooner. this morning we're going to bring you part of that interview. plus a soccer player kicks the ball boy. it was all caught on camera. cheap shot or cheap trick? and super bowl ads now getting their own ads. yes, you heard me right, ads for ads. i'll have the details on the sneak peeks starting to leak out. a lot to talk about this morning. we're also going to talk about women being allowed to join the infantry in the military. we'll talk about ron johnson about that fiesty interchange he had with secretary of state hillary clinton yesterday. it's friday, january 24th. "starting point" begins right now. good morning, welcome, everybody. our starting pointing this morning is the cold. so cold you might not believe
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it. the bitter cold blast gripping much of the country and it's not expected to go away any time soon. in new york people looked like little mummies out on the street there with the temperatures plunging into the single digits. street cart vendors and crews braved those temperatures, stayed on the job. kind of had to. new england, car doors were frozen shut. in northern maine the temperature dipped as low as 36 below zero. and ski resorts in new hampshire feeling like 84 below. 84 below. the deep freeze is expected to last through the weekend. authorities say three people have already died from exposure to the deep cold. let's get right to jennifer delgado. she's got first the forecast for us. we also have susan candiotti who's live at columbus circle. susan, let's start with you. how cold is it? >> reporter: it is bittery cold, like you said. not too many people out here in columbus circle at this hour, but we can tell you that it is 13 degrees. by this particular gauge, 18 degrees. it degrees what sign your looking at.
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windchill factor, 5. your best bet always is to dress in layers or, if you can, stay inside. these biting temperatures have been difficult to deal with and can be dangerous. talk about a double whammy, new yorkers who made minimum home repairs after superstorm sandy may not have enough heat. >> and we are just freezing here. >> reporter: one reason warming centers are springing up in cold weather cities, giving the most vulnerable, young and old, some relief. >> i haven't had hot water and heat for three days. yesterday a little bit of heat came on. the only heat that we got was in the bathroom. >> reporter: in syracuse, a heavy downfall lowering visibility, giving snow blowers a workout, making it tough for postal carriers to get from house to house. >> hopefully the driveway will already be plowed when i get back. >> reporter: in iowa city, iowa, just 1 degree above zero. a dog shelter begging for help after a heater broke down.
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extra blankets needed to keep the cement floors warm for man's best friend. >> it's a stressful environment. we're trying to keep them as comfortable as we can. >> reporter: outside pittsburgh, when a water main broke in the middle of the night, single digit temperatures turned gushing water into a sheet of ice. subzero temps aren't all bad if you like ice boating. skimming across the ice at speeds up to 60 miles an hour in what looks like a mini kayak with a sail. for those who have to work outside -- >> as long as i bundle up really like double bundle, i'm good. i have a lot of clothes on. >> reporter: maybe the best way to get by is thinking hot. >> key largo is a great place this time of year. >> reporter: and the forecast high there today, 77 degrees. now, by contrast, in gaithersburg, maryland, yesterday dangerous for a cell phone worker who was up on a tower about 200 feet high when all of a sudden his hands went
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numb, his legs cramped up and a co-worker had to climb up to rescue him. he was treated at the hospital for hypothermia, but he'll be okay, so be careful out there. soledad. >> my goodness. susan candiotti for us, thanks, susan, for that. let's get right to jennifer delgado. first, how bad is it going to be across the nation and when does it all end? >> it is still going to be bad out there as we go through the day. i want to show you some impressive numbers. look at this windchill value of minus 85. that was registered at mt. washington, new hampshire. of course that's the higher elevation, 6300 feet. they had wind gusts up to 115 miles per hour. for today, we're going to be still seeing those windy conditions. now, our current windchill outside showing various areas. green bay, minus 13. minus 19 in minneapolis, but it's not just the upper midwest. might minus 4 in portland, and it feels like 1 degree in new york. as we go through the next couple days, temperatures are still going to be 10 degrees below average for this time of year.
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look at the average high. it should be 38 in pittsburgh, 44 in washington, d.c. a lot of people have been asking us what is causing this arctic outbreak? we are called in a negative phase. all this cold air is spilling down towards the south affecting parts of the northeast as well as the upper midwest. now, when we're in a positive phase, i'll help you visualize this, just imagine you have a belt and tighten it up. that locks up all that polar air in the northern region. now it looks like we could be going through these periods for the next couple of weeks ahead as we look at this arctic oscillation pattern. >> jennifer delgado for us this morning. thanks, jennifer, appreciate it. today is the day that manti te'o goes on camera for the very first time to tell his story. he is the notre dame football player whose fake girlfriend became international news. he's going to speak to abc's katie couric about the controversy surrounding his internet love affair that turned out to be a big hoax. he's admitted to lying a little bit about the relationship.
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here's what he told katie. >> my story i felt was a guy who in times of hardship and in times of trial really, you know, held strong to his faith, held strong to his family. and i felt that that was my story. >> even if that hardship was perhaps exaggerated? >> no, it was -- what i went through is real. you know, the feelings, the pain, the sorrow. that was all real. >> george howell is with us this morning. george, lots of questions remain, of course, even with at least the parts of the interview that we've seen. we're going to see the full interview today. >> reporter: soledad, definitely. fair to say te'o has his doubters. a lot of people wanting to see what he had to say to katie couric but he insists he had nothing to do with this internet hoax. te'o says his feelings were real. he claims he really believed that his online girlfriend, who he had never met, died of cancer in september. now, fast forward to december. just two days before he attended
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the heisman trophy ceremony, he got a call from a woman saying that she was alive or a person he thought was a woman. when faced with the media that day he kept talking about her as if she was alive. later the sports blog, deadspin, broke the deception, uncovered that. but here's what te'o told katie. >> you stuck to the script and you knew that something was amiss, manti. >> correct. >> why? >> well, if anybody put yourself in my position. katie, put yourself in my position. this girl who i committed myself to died on september 12th. now i get a phone call on december 6th saying that she's alive. and then i'm going to be put on national tv two days later and to ask me the same question. you know, what would you do? >> manti te'o's father, brian te'o, stuck up for the football player saying that he's adamant his son is not a liar. listen.
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>> people can speculate about what they think he is. i've known him 21 years of his life. and he's not a liar. he's a kid. >> reporter: then, of course, there is the real-life woman whose pictures were used to create the fake online image of lennay kekua. her real name, diane o'meara. she said she had nothing to do with the plot and knew the mastermind, ronaiah tuiasosopo from high school but tells anderson cooper, again, she had nothing to do with this. listen. >> he reached out to me a day or two days before the story broke and relayed to me that he in fact was stalking my profile for five years, taking my photos and he created -- >> for five years he was doing this? >> he created this identity that was not me. it was this lennay kekua with my face on it.
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>> so soledad, there's this internet phenomena called catfishing where you create a fake online image and draw people in. so the question, was te'o a victim of catfishing? we'll hear more from him later today when he talks to katie couric in that exclusive interview. >> i can't wait to watch that interview. george howell for us this morning. thank you, george, appreciate it. so the question is do you believe manti te'o? was it catfishing? dawn ritchie says it's pretty easy to be duped by something like this. she's a private investigator. the president of allstate investigation and lots of her investigations are, i would imagine, involve catfishing. >> yeah, we get calls every day about people who meet people online, have relationships and then it obviously turns sour because a lot of them really do. >> so you believe manti te'o. >> oh, without a doubt. i think that there's -- i think that there's a lot more blame and background to research on
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tuiasosopo. >> tuiasosopo. >> yeah, you got it. i think that's more -- they should really investigate more on that because he's actually done it a few times as has been reported. >> i thought it was so interesting when anderson was interviewing diane o'meara, who is the -- lennay when she said for five years tuiasosopo was trolling her facebook and stealing those images to create this person. is that what you've seen in your investigations? >> yeah. i think that they take -- yes and no. but they do take one particular person and use that image time and time again. however -- yes. but also too a lot of my clients end up sending pictures to their online boyfriend, so you often wonder where those pictures end up and if they become the next girlfriend/boyfriend. >> oh, i see what you're saying. >> that's why there's really no
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way of catching the real bottom line of what is happening. in this particular case there is a culprit, there is somebody who has a background. but normally you really just can't find out who it is because everybody is fake. it's all fake. >> but to what end? if you listen to manti te'o, he says he was asked for a checking account number. he never gave a checking account number. he went to the school to make sure his checking account couldn't be accessed. >> in his particular case because he was so wrapped up into it, and i think that the guy that was involved in it, it was -- he's the one that has the evil stem in him because he's done it so many times. so i think he gets a kick out of it. the thing is, is that i can't figure out why he ended up picking up on manti. i don't know why he ended up doing that to him. >> what you're saying is it's tuiasosopo that we need to sit down there and find out what
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happened. >> oh, without a doubt. i think the kid is just a young kid. he fell in love and, you know, online and he fell in love with the dream and he got really hurt. >> dawn ricci, nice to have you. thanks for being with us. >> thank you. >> private investigator on catfishing. john berman has a look at some of the other stories making news today. new overnight, tough talk from north korea, maybe the toughest we've heard since kim jong-il's death. the defense commission calls north korea the sworn enemy of the united states and plans to carry out further long-range rocket launches all part of a new phase of confrontation with the united states. do they actually have this nuclear capability? here's what the south korean defense minister says. listen. >>. >> translator: we consider that north korea is ready to conduct a nuclear test at any time if its leadership decides to go ahead. regarding this, we're closely regarding the north's nuclear test preparations and its
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military movement based on our firm and combined defense position. >> reaction coming in this morning to secretary of state hillary clinton's grilling on the hill. at one point while answering tough questions about the deadly terror attack on the diplomatic compound in benghazi, her voice cracked as she described consoling family members of the four americans who died there. >> i stood next to president obama as the marines carried those flag-draped caskets off the plane at andrews. i put my arms around the mothers and fathers, the sisters and brothers, the sons and daughters and the wives left alone to raise their children. >> during five and a half hours of children, there was also intense criticism of her and the obama administration, like this from republican senator rand paul. >> had i been president at the time and i found that you did not read the cables from benghazi, you did not read the cables from ambassador stevens, i would have relieved you of your post.
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i think it's inskewedabexcusabl >> some people are implying that the emotion you saw from secretary clinton was preplanned. so coming up in our next half hour, we're going to talk about that with senator ron johnson, who was one-half of the most heated exchange with the secretary. of course less than three hours from now, senator john kerry will be in a nomination hearing for secretary of state. hillary clinton is expected to introduce kerry to the senate committee. president obama picked kerry to succeed clinton after susan rice withdrew her name. soledad. >> john, thanks. an historic announcement happening later today. women will be allowed on the front lines of war. outgoing defense secretary leon panetta and the joint chiefs chairman martin dempsey are set to make the announcement at 1:30 this afternoon. many former service members support the move and say women in support missions have already been drawn into battles in places like iraq and afghanistan and they don't have physical front lines anymore. some serve as military police, others have gone on patrols with
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ground troops in order to talk to afghan women and children. pentagon correspondent barbara starr is following these developments for us this morning. where is the major opposition to this coming from, barbara? >> reporter: well, good morning, soledad. there are some groups that are opposing it because they have concerns about women serving in the military, frankly, and have had those concerns for years. but in the case of this, bipartisan support largely. once the joint chiefs endorsed the idea, hard to oppose them. nonetheless, senator john mccain is one of the senators articulating his view, his concern that rigorous physical standards be maintained if women are going to serve in dangerous units like infantry, special forces, then he is saying the rigorous standards must apply to them as well for everyone's safety in those types of situations. you know it's going to raise a really interesting prospect the next time the military goes on a raid to get somebody like osama
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bin laden, will women be along. soledad. >> so what do women think about this -- overall about lifting its ban? >> reporter: you know, from the vast majority of women who have served, you're seeing a lot of support for it. look, the reality is hundreds of women have been injured in iraq and afghanistan, more than 100 women have been killed. and that is combat by any measure. so women are already serving in some very dangerous areas. this has been going on for years and it is the reality of military service in this country. the question on the table is can they make the next step, can they be allowed to make the next step into special forces, infantry, dangerous flying missions, that sort of thing, and the pentagon is saying yes. soledad. >> all right, barbara starr for us this morning. thanks, barbara. up next we'll talk to hawaii congressman tulsi gabbard and we'll talk about that ahead.
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christine, business news. taking a bite out of the apple out of the market. apple boasts a record quarter but investors say so why is the stock down 8%, 9% now in premarket. i'll tell you what's not to like.
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welcome, everybody. we've been telling you about a major development from the pentagon this morning. the military will lift its combat ban on women today, and that includes women who are serving in certain sectors, including infantry and other front-line combat positions that are currently off limits. tulsi gabbard is one of the first female combat veterans to serve this congress. appreciate your time this morning. so what's your reaction to the
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news? do you feel like this is a major step? >> aloha, good morning and thanks for having me here. yes, that is a major step that is long overdue but is a great recognition not only of all the women who are currently serving overseas, many of them in these combat type situations already, but for women who have ever served. we have over 1.8 million women veterans across the country, countless others who have serve eld our country over generations and this is an official recognition of the sacrifices women have been making for this country. >> you say combat-type positions and you're a combat veteran yourself. so is this to some degree semantics with the shifting of the front line or the disappearing of front lines, that women have actually really been in combat? >> well, i think so. you know, i think that when we look at, for example, two women, the first two women who earned silver stars since world war ii, one was a military police sergeant. another was a medic. and they both were operating on the front lines per se under
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fire, under extreme duress, shoulder to shoulder with their male and female counterparts. and exhibiting great courage and heroism and saving the lives of their brothers and sisters. >> ryan smith writes in the "wall street journal" this morning and he says this. it would be distracting and potentially traumatizing to be forced to be naked in fronting of the opposite sex, particularly when your body has been ravaged by lack of hygiene. in the reverse, it would be painful to witness a member of the opposite sex in such an uncomfortable and awkward position. he's obviously arguing against this. does he have a point? >> you know, i respectfully disagree. i think that in these situations we're talking about highly trained professionals, people who build our strong military because they place the mission first and they're there to fight as a member of a team. all of the other things that differentiate us, make us unique, whether it be gender or race or religion, all of these things fall aside when you're
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there putting the mission first and selflessly serving as that member of a team. i can tell you from my own fi t firsthand experience as well as the many, many people i've had the honor of serving with, whether in training or in a deployed setting, those things are not what's crossing your mind when you're operating. >> should there be jobs that are not open to women? i mean are there some positions that really women cannot do? >> i don't think so. i think that really you have to look at what are the qualifications, what are the standards necessary for a specific job that are already in place and opening those doors to anyone who has volunteered to serve our country, if they meet those standards, that should be the setting. i think we've heard from john mccain, for example. his concern about making sure that the high physical fitness standards are kept, and i agree. i think in some of these jobs that do require a great amount of physical fitness, those standards should not be compromised. if women are in an ability to
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meet those standards, they should be allowed to serve. >> congresswoman, thank you for being with us this morning. aloha, as you say. i appreciate it the time. we're going to obviously keep talking about the pentagon, they're going to make that announcement this afternoon at 1:30. ahead this morning on "starting pointing" we're going to get some insight on it from the general spider marks. also victoria clarke is former assistant secretary of defense and public affairs. she'll join us as well. then we'll take a sneak peek at football commercials and also tell you the story of a baby born with her heart outside the chest. an amazing story of survival. your not going to want to miss that. we're back in just a moment. aveeno has an oat formula, now proven to build a moisture reserve, so skin can replenish itself. that's healthy skin for life. only from aveeno.
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exxonmobil in 2008 when gas prices were at record highs. they also posted record ipad sales. profit margins are getting squeezed because of lower, cheaper iphones and lower costs of the ipad mini are growing in popularity. investors look forward, they don't look back. they are look ahead and say is apple going to continue to deliver like this? they don't think so, stocks down 9% in the premarket. you know a commercial is popular when it gets its own commercial. some companies are putting out teasers on their super bowl ads. volkswagen posted part of its get happy commercial today on its youtube channel. toyota, taco bell, other big names are doing the same. it's a trend that started last year as companies try to drum up social media buzz ahead of the game. that volkswagen ad so interesting. it got a lot of attention for its darth vader kid. last year it had dogs barking at cars. they're trying to drum up sort of a viral sensation. ten days to go before the super
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visit to apply. welcome back, everybody. you're watching "starting point." our team this morning, roland martin is a cnn political analyst. will cain is with us, a cnn contributor, contributor for john berman sticks around as well. lots of buildup, lots of drama as the secretary of state hillary clinton testified about the siege in benghazi. this morning the reviews of her testimony are coming in. the secretary's voice cracked as she spoke about the deaths of ambassador christopher stevens and three other americans.
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then she became quite steely as she tried to defend what the obama administration knew about the attack. jill dougherty is following developments for us this morning. tell me first, jill, how the secretary's testimony has been received? >> reporter: well, you know, there were a lot of emotional highs in that, as you know, soledad, and we're going to see secretary clinton again this morning in about three hours. she'll be back on capitol hill at the senate for the confirmation hearing for the man we expect will be the successor for her here at the state department, and that is senator john kerry. but her testimony on benghazi is still making waves. if she was tired by more than five and a half hours of testifying on the deadly attack in benghazi, the recently ailing secretary of state hillary clinton denied she was holding anything back from congress. >> that's not who i am. that's not what i do. >> reporter: there was no doubt how personally clinton took the death of the four americans in
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benghazi. >> i stood next to president obama as the marines carried those flag-draped caskets off the plane at andrews. i put my arms around the mothers and fathers, the sisters and brothers, the sons and daughters and the wives left alone to raise their children. >> reporter: but republicans levelled angry charges at the state department and the obama administration did not see the danger signs. >> i categorically reject your answer. >> had i been president at the time and i found that you did not read the cables from benghazi, you did not read the cables from ambassador stevens, i would have relieved you of your post. >> we have no doubt they were terrorists, they were militants. >> reporter: clinton was at times dwienefiant and not afrai push back. >> no, no, no. again, we were misled. there was supposedly protests and then something sprang out of that, an assault sprang out of that, and that was easily ascertained that that was not
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the fact. the american people could have known that within days. >> with all due respect, the fact is we had four dead americans. was it because of a protest or because of guys out for iawalk one night who decided they'd go kill some americans. what difference at this point does it make? >> madam secretary, you let the consulate become a death trap. and that's national security malpractice. >> i think i've made that very clear, congressman. >> reporter: for the first time she explained why it was u.n. ambassador susan rice and not she who delivered those misleading talking points. >> i have to confess here in public, going on the sunday shows is not my favorite thing to do. >> reporter: in a day of heavy questioning, a rare light moment. >> madam secretary, first, let me thank you for your service. and i wish you the best in your future endeavors mostly. >> reporter: future endeavors, mostly. and of course that's reference to 2016, the presidential
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campaign that many expect secretary clinton could be a candidate from the democratic side. an interesting side of the benghazi hearing, of course, was the fact that some of the people who asked her questions could be gop candidates for president a well. >> there's always the sense that there's a lot more going on than just the questions when those things happen. jill dougherty for us this morning, thank you, jill. appreciate it. still ahead, we're going to be talking with senator ron johnson. that was his heated exchange you saw with the secretary there. we'll ask him about that and the fallout from that straight ahead. other stories that are making news this morning. john has that. it is really cold outside. the deep freeze gripping so much of the country right now. windchills expected to be dangerously low today in the upper midwest and northeast. in northern ohio the lake-effect snow piled up as temperatures plunged into the teens and single digits. roads were shut down in wilkinsburg, p.a., after the freezing temperatures burst a water main there.
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check this out again, we showed you this picture yesterday. we're now getting a closer look at that building in chicago that turned into a giant ice castle after firefighters put out a massive five-alarm fire there. and while we're shivering right now, others are feeling awfully nice and toasty. take a look at miami, where the high today will be a sunny 77 degrees. miami, we hate you. house speaker john boehner claims that president obama's second term focus is to, quote, annihilate the republican party. >> we're expecting to hear over the next 22 months to be the focus of this administration as they attempt to annihilate the republican party. >> boehner said he and other house republicans charted out a short-term strategy last week but the party needs to begin a broader discussion about upcoming key policy debates. so she knocked off serena williams earlier this week but
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this morning 19-year-old american tennis phenom sloan stephens is out of the australian open. victoria azarenka beat her in straight sets. stephens had to sit and wait again during a medical time-out. azarenka asked for it after she botched five game points. bottom line, azarenka goes on, sloan stephens does not. now to wales and soccer. so it looks like a cheap shot on the ball boy here. check it out. was the ball boy there actually being a ball hog or is this just a big misunderstanding? what was going on here, you make the call. a replay showed that chelsea's eden hazard kicking the teenager after the ball had gone out of play. what was going on there? hazard got a red card, which means he gets kicked out of that game and the next game, team down a player. the ball boy obviously as i said wouldn't give up the ball. he said he was just trying to get to it. he apologized to the boy. police there said they are not going to press charged.
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>> and the boy was wearing a swansea uniform. >> sportsmanship obviously crossed over a line here, but watch this. flopping is not unique to the players in soccer. that wasn't that hard of a kick. >> give the ball to him. the man is trying to play a game. >> and you're wearing the jersey from the opposing team. >> that's why you've got to be careful there. we have one last story to tell you about today, it may be the last time we'll talk about this. the inaugural official -- an inaugural official told cnn that pop star beyonce did not, repeat, did not sing the national anthem live on inauguration day. hang on, rowland. the official asked not to be identified and said it was beyonce herself who made the decision. >> what i think is remarkable is there's an official that does not want to be identified. we love you anyway, babe. no worries. >> 2009, that was a recording.
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>> everyone talked about itten. >> yo yo ma talked about it then. >> beyonce, this is just ridiculous, my goodness. and the katie couric interview oprah about talking to beyonce about it. let's get back to this hearing yesterday. did you watch that? >> yes. >> it was a pretty riveting hearing, i thought. a moment ago we were showing you one of the most heated moments from secretary clinton's hearing. it was a tense exchange between the secretary and republican senator ron johnson of wisconsin. senator johnson is with us this morning. we're going to talk -- hey, senator johnson, nice to see you. thanks for being with us. >> good morning, soledad, how are you doing? >> i'm really well, thank you. what did oouk of that hearing yesterday? things got pretty tense. i think it's fair to say heated between you and secretary clinton. >> well, i was trying to be respectful and i was a little surprised at her reaction. listen, i was asking a pretty simple question. we could have known very quickly whether it was a protest or there wasn't a protest by just getting on the phone to those evacuees and, first of all, finding out are you okay, are
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your families taken care of but then asking what happened. because when you read the report, it's obvious there is no protest, there is no activity outside the consulate. this thing started at 9:40 p.m. when people stormed the gate. so there was no reason for this literally weeks of controversy. quite honestly now for months we could have had those answers. i'm surprised it's not standard operating procedure to go in there and debrief these professionals immediately so we can preventing maybe some other imminent threats. >> well, two things. first, she said to you what does it really matter if the goal is looking forward and the second thing she said, to which when you pointed out that you thought -- when she said i didn't want to interfere in the process, you said, well, that's a good excuse. >> that is a dodge but let's go back to what difference does it make. i believe the american people deserve to be told the truth. i believe the american people need to understand what happened. and i really think the american
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people do have an expectation that this president, this administration is honest with them. so i think it makes a great deal of difference. and the fact of the matter is this administration has been hiding behind an fbi investigation and then a 60-day accountability review board report just happened to land after the election. so they were playing election politics, no doubt about it. listen -- >> senator, you're playing politics too because one of the things you said, you said to buzz feed, i think she just decided before she was going to describe emotionally the four dead americans, that's when she was really choking up, the heroes and used that as her trump card to get out of the questions. it was a good way of getting out of really having to respond to me and then the other question i point out where you said -- when she said she didn't want to interfere in the process, you said, well, that's a good excuse. so it sounds to me like you're saying, a lot of that was just faked. >> well, i was responding to a question maybe i shouldn't. i agree with secretary clinton we need to understand what
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happened so we can prevent it in the future. but again, we do need to get to the bottom of what actually happened. what is the truth of the matter here. did the administration mislead us? i absolutely believe they did. that's for the american people to understand. >> sir, let's go back to the question and i harry you. but respectfully, here's what you told buzz feed. it was a good way of getting out of having to respond to me and the question to the secretary right before she really said with all due respect, senator, and kind of went at you a little bit, you said, well, that's a good excuse. so to me both of those things read, i think fairly, as someone saying you're faking it. this is fake. >> listen, they were hiding behind the fbi investigation. they were hiding behind this accountability review board report so they weren't answering any questions. it's taken four months. i understand she had health problems, i'm glad she's returned to health. but the fact of the matter is this administration has not been straightforward with the american public. again, i'm getting pressure from my constituents to find out the truth. the american people deserve the truth.
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that is why this matters. but it also matters enormously. this is where i agree with secretary clinton. the main pointi is let's find ot what happened and prevent it from happening in the future. there is a failure of leadership before this and certainly after this and we need to correct those problems. >> sir, you accuse her of crying and being emotional as a good way of getting out. >> i did not -- no, i did not accuse her of crying. >> you said she was going to describe emotionally the four dead americans, the heroes. it was a good way of getting out of having to really respond to me. how am i misreading it? >> i was responding to a question, soledad. i probably speculated and i shouldn't have. the bottom line is the reason it makes a difference is the american people deserve the truth from their president and from this administration and they haven't gotten it yet. i'm going to continue to try and figure out what the truth is. why haven't we been able to question those evacuees? that's one of the questions we're going to be asking. can those folks be made available so we can findi out
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what happened, who in the administration might have nobody what happened as they were misleading the american people for those couple of weeks, probably for the last couple months. >> senator ron johnson with us this morning. thank you, senator. nice to have you as always, appreciate it. >> have a great day. likewise. straight ahead, new york city's ban on sugary sodas has a lot of people angry. they say the ban is unfair to minorities. a little baby finally ready to leave the hospital. she was worn with her heart outside her body. we'll tell you about her condition straight ahead. when you have diabetes...
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welcome back, everybody. soft drink companies have a new ally in their soda war with the
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mayor, michael bloomberg, of new york. the new york chapter of the naacp, an organization that has close ties with coca-cola, coca-cola funds some of their programs, "the new york times" reports that attorneys for coca-cola wrote in an naacp court filing that supports blocking the supersize soft drink ban. the city health department says since obesity rates are higher in the african-american community the ban would be beneficial. that ban goes into effect come march. it is surprising that the naacp would weigh into this debate. you know, you and i have had this debate a bunch of times about the size of these sodas at a time when the people who are really suffering with obesity are african-americans and latinos. >> the same thing happened when you saw potential increasing of taxes on cigarettes. it happened in chicago where you had business groups, the black chamber of commerce, they said, oh, this is going to hurt small businesses but then the argument was, wait a minute, when you look at cancer rates among african-americans, how do you say don't do that when it's
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affecting african-americans? and so i think the naacp, the new york chapter is going to have to have an explanation because, again, obesity among african-americans is huge. >> well, the explanation is that they'd like to see a more holistic approach, that this is not the way to do it. it's a little bit like your gun debate. like don't do this, do a big picture, you're never going to get the solution. i think there is some merit to that argument. however -- >> also a loophole here. they say that small business owners are affected, convenience stores, but larger stores like -- according to "the new york times," larger stores like 7-eleven would be exempt from soda restrictions because of a court in new york's regulatory structure. so they're saying 7-eleven will continue to be able to sell them but a mom and pop won't be able to sell it. >> that's the deepest merit. any time you put these regulations or big government solutions in place, there is a winner. the winner is usually big business. there's a tie between big business and big government. there is a sponsorship relationship between the naacp and big a.
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coca-cola and naacp have a relationship. we'd be naive to assume that doesn't have something to do with it. >> i think when you say a holistic approach, it's kind of a nonanswer. when you say you're going to wait for a holistic approach, usually that means we're not going to try to tackle the problem in the specific bans or legislation, et cetera. so i get it, they have a relationship. that doesn't surprise me at all, honestly. and they fund some good programs for the naacp so i don't think it's a bad relationship. i think you can't just say i want a holistic approach and don't do something about something very specific. what's the thing that's going to fix the obesity problems in the community that the naacp cares about. >> one is more education but if you say holistic approach, you've right, offer a plan, thought just a phrase. ahead on "starting point," a little baby who was born with our heart outside of her body but she says got a secret weapon. i'll tell you what's keeping her safe. you're watching "starting pointing" straight ahead.
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good morning, welcome everybody. you're watching "starting point." baby, her only, with a condition that was only going to allow her to live for three days. her name is audrina cardenas. she was born with a third of her heartbeating outside her body.
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christie myers has a story of audrina's survival. after three months in the hospital, audrina and her mother were ready to go home. >> she's doing really good. she'll be going home on a little bit of oxygen but very little, she's gone home on a feeding tube but hopefully with o.t. help we'll be able to get her feeding through a bottle. >> reporter: she's come a long way since she was born october 5th with a third of her heartbeating outside her body. in a six-hour surgery texas children's doctors reconstructed her chest calfit to make space for her heart. they made her a pony plate to protect her heart, one made out of pink plastic. >> she doesn't have aster numb, anything over her heart because the skin and the little muscle that they put over so this is very important for her to wear especially for her car seat, the straps go right an her heart and
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if she didn't have anything hard it would damage her heart. >> reporter: in the future audrina will have another surgery and doctors will make aster numb for her out of her ribs. her mother loves her baby as she is. >> a lot of times you don't see her any other way. >> reporter: she packed audrina's toys and clothes. she's not leaving houston. dr. charles fraser is the heart surgeon, he had a last-minute checkup and walked out with the doctors and nurses, all of whom critical in giving this baby a chance. ashley is daunted by the medical equipment she has to handle but very grateful, too. >> i think sometimes where miracle is overused but cases like that if we can save a baby whose heart is outside of her body. >> it's a miracle.
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manti te'o tells his story on camera, speaking out about the girlfriend hoax and we have the tape. new developments in a food supply scare, questions about horse meat found in burgers overseas that reportedly could taint the food supply with a cancer causing drug. britain's standard agencies say the story is not true. l.z. granderson is a writer with espn, and retired general spider marks, and big ang raiola and ramona rizzo, and "starting point" begins right now. good morning, welcome, everybody. our team roland martin, cnn political analyst, host of "washington watch." will cain, contributor for, john berman from
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"early start." our starting point so cold you might not believe some of the numbers. bitter cold blast gripping much of the country is not expected to go away any time soon. take a look at the white house, take a look at the capitol building covered in snow, here in new york, people kind of wrapped up like mummies, the deep freeze is only adding to the misery for those folks who are victims of hurricane sandy, tens of thousands of homes are still without heat and despite the negative windchill factors, people are still in some of those homes. turning out in northern ohio, interstate 930 shut down as temperatures plunged into the teens and single digits, lake-effect snow piled up, triggered sever eed several cra. however miami, lovely miami a high of 76 degrees. if you're thinking of escaping the cold jennifer delgado look at how it's been and going to be. good morning. >> an escape plan is right. you certainly need this from this cold air and it looks like as we go through the next couple days we're going to be dealing with this cold weather pattern
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because we're in what we call a negative arctic oscillation phase. when you're in this negative phase all the cold air in the polar region basically is allowed to move down towards southern parts of the u.s., including the midwest, and the east coast, and that means we could stay in this phase for the next couple weeks ahead. now, that's not to say we're not going to warm up but it's still going to be below average. i want to show you some of the windchill values, minus 33 degrees and windchill in international falls, minus 10 in green bay, as we move over to boston it feels like minus 14, even still, we are still going to see cooler conditions out there and some of these higher elevations like in new england it could get down to minus 50 with the windchill. just yesterday we saw one register at minus 85, and a higher elevation and new hampshire. now the cold air in place, notice that high temperatures over the next couple days, they're going to be about ten degrees below average. for new york city typically you
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should be at 38 degrees. today we're only going to see a high of 24 and we're going to keep you cool all the way through the weekend. washington, d.c., 31 degrees, we just showed you snow setting up in washington, d.c., and that is going to come to an end in the next hour but in some of the locations we could see one to three inches of snowfall and that advisory will expire at 9:00 but not the cold air, soledad t will be dangerously cold for the next several days >> that is such bad news. jennifer delgado, thanks, appreciate it. notre dame football player manti te'o has gone on air for the first time speaking to katie couric speaking about the love affair that turned out to be international news. turns out the whole thing was a hoax but there are still more questions and answers. george howell has been following the story for us, good morning. >> soledad good morning. fair to say he's got his doubters. people want to know exactly what did he know about this internet hoax? te'o says his feelings in this case were real, he claims he really believed that his online
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girlfriend who he'd never met died of cancer in september. now fast forward to december, and just two days before he attended the heisman trophy ceremony he got a call from someone saying the woman was dead -- was alive but faced with the media that day he kept talking about her as if she was dead. sports blog deadspin broke the deception there. here's what he told katie couric. >> you stuck to the script. >> um-hum. >> you knew that something was amiss. >> um-hum. >> manti? >> correct. >> why? >> well, if anybody puts yourself in my situation, katie, put yourself in my situation, this girl who i committed myself to died on september 12th. now i get a phone call on december 6th saying that she's alive and that i'm going to be put on national tv two days later, and to ask me about the same question, you know, what would you do? >> it gets confusing, you know, and te'o admits he did briefly
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lie. his father, brian te'o stuck up for the football player saying he's adamant his son is into the not a liar, listen. >> people can speculate about what they think he is. i've known him 21 years of his life and he's not a liar. he's a kid. >> then of course there's the real life girl whose pictures were used to create a fake online image of lennay kekua. her real name is diane o'meara. she insists she was never part of the hoax. she tells anderson cooper people need to be very careful online. >> he reached out to me a day or two days before the story broke and relaid to me he in fact was stalking my profile for five years, taking my photos and he created this -- >> five years he was doing this.
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>> he created this idea that was not me, it was this lennay kekua with my face on it. >> soledad there are so many players, so many characters in this story t ge, it gets confus. it will be interesting to hear what te'o has to say when he talks to katie couric. was he a victim of catfishing, you create a fake online image and bring people in to believe it's true. we'll hear more from te'o later today. >> i cannot wait for this interview. >> it will be interesting. george howell appreciate it. other stories making news this morning and john berman has a look at that for us. tensions mounting in north korea, that country's national defense commission is calling the u.s. "the sworn enemy of the korean people." this happening just after the u.n. security council passed a resolution condemning north korea's rocket launch from last year. listen to this. >> today's resolution makes clear that there will be an
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increasingly steep price to pay if north korea again chooses confrontation with this council and the international community. >> in a defiant response, north korea says it's planning to carry out new nuclear testing and further long range rocket launches as part of what it calls the new phase of confrontation with the united states. an historic announcement happening later today, women being allowed on the front lines of war. outgoing defense secretary leon panetta and joint chiefs mareman martin dempsey said to make the announcement at 1:30. former members support the move and say some women have already been drawn into battle and patrolled in afghanistan in places that don't have physical lines. soledad talked to tulsey gabbard of hawaii said it's about time. >> highly trained professionals, they build the strong military because they place the mission
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first and there to fight as a member of a team. whether it be gender, race or religion, all of these things fall aside when you're there putting the mission first and selflessly serving as that member of a team. just in to cnn, brand newic pi pictures of a fire that reignited at a warehouse in chicago. it broke out tuesday night. firefighters were forced to fight it in freezing temperatures, it rows over, looked like an ice castle after it was doused with water. now the fire has started again and it really is extraordinary to see that picture there. the ice is now melting that's the one effect of the fire. the building so badly damaged in the bridgeport section it will have to be knocked down. >> they expected it would rekindle, that's why they had the crews around it but still when you look at that, they can only fight it from the outside it's a big problem for them. can we return to the manti te'o story, please?
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>> sure. >> we have so many questions, so much that i still do not understand, after weeks and weeks of silence, we now know that he is speaking out to katie couric. we'll get a chance to hear the interview today. this morning we have a panel of experts to talk about it, too, doug eldridge, founder of dle sports management group, chris draft played football with the atlanta falcons, among other teams, ceo and president of the chris draft family foundation and l.z. granderson, cnn writer and contributor. where do we begin? chris, i want to start with you. i want to start with the impact of what all of this will be. >> doug, can you hear me? while they're fixing chris's audio i'll ask you the question i was going to ask him. what do you think the impact is as he goes into the combine, into the draft, this is a national story, and a scandal and hugely embarrassing so what does it mean to him, you know,
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on the ground there, as he goes through this with other players? >> well i think it's a two-fold question, first of all is what is the impact on his draft and second of all is what is the overarching impact on marketability. and when you dissect that question it's a question of performance versus perception. on the nfl side it's a question of how is manti going to perform on the field. this is no longer a scouting issue it's a personnel issue. they need to look at behind of scenes of what went into this and each nfl team has in-depth investigation units that will get to the bottom of that. that's the performance component. on the second side as it relates to market act and endorsement it's a question of fan perception, how do they view him, what do they feel his role is in this and how do they align themselves with him as far as likability. >> chris, whose audio has been fixed, how about just the
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pressure of going into this with the eyes of the nation watching everything you're doing as a football player. tell me about that. >> it's a huge amount of pressure for manti but he dealt with a lot of pressure throughout the season so you were able to see with all this going on that he was able to perform well on the field, i think the question still right now is what's the truth? i think as an nfl team, that's what you have to find out is what is the truth. >> not really the bcs game, right, that one which we know was -- >> with all due respect chris when he knew what the truth was of the story we his worst game of the season against alabama so there is some evidence that this scandal can affect his play. >> definitely the scandal can affect his play. you were able to see that, but that doesn't mean it was all about the scandal. alabama is a great team. i think he has to deal with it, he has to deal with it right now. the nfl will make sure it's dealt with, they'll have great investigators that look into it. right now we're talking about the draft status, it's about his
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combine performance, all those things on the field, but then they're going to have to find out exactly what's going on with the story. i think as the truth gets out it's going to allow him to be able to be more confident. >> we know he lied, he told katie couric he lied after the fact about -- here, let's play a little bit of what he said to katie. >> you stuck to the script and you knew that something was amiss, manti. >> correct. >> why? >> well, if anybody puts yourself in my situation, katie, put yourself in my situation, this girl who i committed myself to, died on september 12th. now i get a phone call on december 6th saying that she's alive and that i'm going to be put on national tv two days later and to ask me about the same question, you know, what would you do? >> is that a reasonable point? like you know honestly, given l.z., given all that had
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happened, why not? does it make sense -- by the way he's a young guy, about to play a really important game. >> right. in december, that makes all the sense in the world to me. in january, that makes no sense in the world to me. why did you let a month go by before you, before the university of notre dame, before your father who is teary eyed saying you're not a liar, why did you let a month go by before deadspin outed you. without the pressure of the heisman and without the pressure of just finishing a season, why not then say you know what? i was duped. i apologize, let's move forward and play in the championship game. >> i'm dying to watch the interview. >> whether or not we can believe manti te'o or not, let me turn to the concept of manti's future. doug separated performance from perception. performance l.z. is not limited to field. manti te'o has to go into locker rooms of the nfl. whether or not he was the victim
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or part of the hoax i can't imagine that will go well in the locker room. >> every rookie regardless of the league goes through a period of hazing. this will be part of his period of hazing. >> oh! experience. >> he's going to get the doughnuts, the water for the veterans and all of that, and they're going to do a lot of te'o'ing, you know, tease him like that. if you are a lottery team chances are your defense is suspect. if he performs well -- >> he can get over it. >> l.z., chris and doug, thanks, guys, i appreciate it. >> thank you. completely disagree with you on the last answer, i think you're right, will cain. still ahead on "starting point," women on the front lines of battle. we'll talk with retired general james "spider" marks and victoria clarke, former pentagon spokeswoman about what that means. and i sit down with a reporter who uncovered things never before known about the church of scientology, and its obsession with hollywood.
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welcome, everybody. major announcement expected this
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afternoon from the defense department, allowing women to serve in infantry and other front line combat positions that currently have been off limits. joining us from washington, d.c., is victoria clarke, former pentagon spokeswoman and military analyst and retired general james "spider" marks is with us as well. nice to see both of you. >> good to see you. >> how big of a deal is this, general marks? >> i don't think it's a big deal. certainly there are a lot of what i would call the old soldiers, the old guards that think this would never take place nor should it. i think it's the right decision. short answer is i don't think it's a big deal. >> would you agree with that, victoria? >> absolutely. i wouldn't say long overdue because change is hard in any organization but women have been serving essentially in combat roles for so long, this is codifying it and allows them to be in line for the promotions they deserve. it's wonderful and i was happy to come out in the snow today to talk about it. >> it's interesting, you raise a point that gail kocollins write
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in "the new york times" today women are on armed patrols and fighter planes but they can't hold jobs th200,000 jobs offici termed combat which often brings more pay and can provide a stepping stone for promotions. how much of this is more qualified and not allowing women equal opportunities in the military? >> well i'll tell you my experience with women in the military in uniform and i am in awe of the jobs they perform was they wanted to focus on the job they were doing, they wanted to focus on being a pilot. they wanted to focus on being a medic, they wanted to focus on whatever the job was at hand. they weren't interested in the rules and regulations, if you will. however, there was always this ceiling above their heads that only allowed them to go so far. so while they focused on the job at hand, this was something that was always being carried along with them and finally that's being lifted. it's going to take some time for all of this to be carried out. finally the extra burden is
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being lifted off of them. >> general marks there have been people and not that many voices that have been aggressively against this but some, ryan smith writes a "wall street journal" op-ed says it would be distracting, traumatizing to be forced, this is his champl forced to be naked in your opposite sex when your body has been ravaged by lack of hygiene in reverse it would be painful to witness a member of the opposite sex in such an uncomfortable and awkward position. does he have a point? that reminds me of what people said when they tried to integrate the military or when -- i think i've heard that story before. >> racial. >> racial integration of the military. >> my view of all this, it's all about leadership. you've got the right leaders at the right level and all about those company commanders, the young 27, 29-year-old kids, kids who have been in combat now two or three times and they must focus in on making it right. if the physical standards can be met, and the unit effectiveness
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is still there, then there's nothing wrong with this at all. you move forward and you make it happen but there will be elements of resistance and that's where commanders at multiple levels need to get involved and make it right. the notion of promotions is not the motivation for this. we read a lot about that. and clearly the senior leaders of all the militaries come from those combat arms, those direct line units. this gives them that opportunity, but let me tell you, in my personal experience i've been so amazed at what female soldiers have been able to accomplish, it's not about that. it's about unit effectiveness and the units i've been a part of, they've been incredible contributors to the effect i haveness of those mission accomplishments. >> general james "spider" marks and victoria clarke, thanks for being with me. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. still ahead an update, reports of horsemeat found in burgers overseas, could it taint the food supply with a cancer-causing krug? drug? we'll look at that story straight ahead.
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welcome back to "starting point." i'm christine romans "minding your business" this morning. stocks pointed to a mixed open, a day after the dow and s&p 500 hit five-year highs again, we'll be watching the nasdaq, could ta a hit because apple shares are down 9%. apple posted the second biggest quarterly profit in u.s. history. but profit margins are getting squeezed because apple's cheaper products are growing in popularity so that stock is getting hit. look at netflix shares, up 37% in premarket trading. i don't say that very often, they're up 37% in the premarket. wall street is shocked with an $8 million fourth quarter profit. wall street expected netflix to lose customers. instead it signed up more than 2 million new streaming customers in the quarter so a big surprise there for netflix shareholders. new developments in a food supply scare that surfaced last week, after horsemeat was found in frozen hamburgers in
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supermarkets. british opposition politician claims that horsemeat contains a drug that causes cancer in humans in those hamburger pattis. the drug bute is a drug anti-inflammatory. britain's food standards agency says it's not true. it tested for the drug, it came back negative. i should point out the u.s. does not import beef from the uk, but a food supply scare right now across the pond. >> the drug is not in the meat but the horsemeat is. >> so it's all about the drug -- >> bute for horses they use it all the time whenever a horse is sore so it would be typical for a horse to get bute every single day. if there's horsemeat and horses aren't slaughtered for meat and glue? i wouldn't doubt there's bute in there. >> let's dale with the horsemeat, to me that probably is significant. >> you had me at the horsemeat. >> not just the drug, yes. >> that's crazy, eww. christine, thank you. we want to talk about what's trending on the web this morning. >> mant sni.
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>> singer adele, new mom performing "skyfall" at the academy awards in l.a. she said it's an honor to be nominated and terrifyingly wonderful to be singing in front of people who have captured my imagination over and over again. >> allegedly singing. she lip syncs? >> she also had significant stage fright so you say terrifyingly, she's probably freaking out i'm singing to the whole world. >> which is awesome. i'm rooting for her. the artist who painted the official portrait of catherine the duchess of cambridge now defending his work. you remember everybody was dissing it when it was unveiled, they said my goodness, wow, she looks old, doesn't she? the artist is paul emsley and he says people need to see the painting with their own eyes. it does not photograph well. it turns out to be the hottest postcard so he's laughing all
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the way to the bank with the 64-year-old catherine duchess. >> if your paint doesn't photograph well, it's the painting. sorry. >> he said it was hard to capture her beauty. >> she looks prettier every time you look at her, one of those beauties. >> there you go. >> that's charming over there. i can't go that far. >> she's already taken, will. >> thanks, manti. new revelations about the world of scientology, inside its hollywood obsession and what the author of a controversial new book says a dozen members told him about their encounters with the church's leader. a super bowl commercial with model kate upton, is it too sexy for the super bowl? >> she get prettier every time? [ male announcer ] this is bob,
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behind the church of scientology with the author of a controversial, new book and from the hit reality show "mob wives" big ann railo and ramon rizza will join us. a deep freeze gripping so much of the country, windchills expected to be dangerously low in the upper midwest and northeast and northern ohio the lake-effect snow piled up as temperatures plunge into the teens and single digits, roads turned into a giant sheet of ice and shut down after freezing temperatures burst a water main. ski resort in new hampshire recorded a windchill of, ready for this, minus 85, minus 85. it goes that low. here is a look at the suspect of the shooting at a community college. he got involved in an argument with another student and used a gun to settle their differences. investigators think a second person might have been involved. they're still looking for a we
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bon. > weapon. president obama will nominate former u.s. attorney mary jo white as the chair of the securities exchange commission. if confirmed she would take over for alyse white. he renominated richard cordray for consumer financial protection bureau head. hillary clinton is expected to introduce john kerry to the senate. here's something that might keep you warm on this frigid morning, a sneak peek at the new mercedes super bowl ad featuring "sports illustrated" covergirl kate upton, excuse me. she is washing a car, yes. >> are you going to make it to the segment just checking. >> she has shorts on. >> they say sex sells but some critics are saying it is too
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sexy for the super bowl. one person who posted on the mercedes-benz facebook page, hot girl, great car and somehow i think this is the worst car mercedes ever made. >> that's it? that's sexy? >> i don't know. >> i'm just saying, she's blowing suds. that's too sexy, seriously. >> that's what they're saying. i'm just reporting the news. >> the godaddy ads have been sexy. >> actual naked women painting their bodies. >> that's more sexy than that? >> i'm not an expert on sexiness like you. >> well that's obvious, manti. >> and we're moving on. so this morning we've got a first look at a new book that takes us inside the world of scientology, it uncovers details about the secretive group that were never before known. the book is called "going clear: scientology, hollywood and the prison of belief" by lawrence wright, already in its second reading. the church's response has been swift and furious. we'll talk to the author about
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that in a few minutes. first anderson cooper looks at the group's controversial history. >> reporter: the church of scientology was founded by a science fiction writer named l. ron hubbard in 1954, its stated goals to help people "live in a sanity without criminals and war where the able can prosper and honest beings can have rights." members pay to take courses designed to help them work through issues of their past and reach a higher state of consciousness. church members are tested with a device called an e-meter used to monitor their feelings and reactions. l ron hubbard died in 1986 and since then this man, david miscavige has been the leader. he oversees the religious order inside the church, an order that's responsible for church manage the called the sea organization. members of sea org sometimes wear naval style uniforms, they
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sign billion-year contracts promising to remain in the church for many reincarnated lives to come. the church of scientology opened some 170 churches around the globe and claims 10 million members worldwide, 6 million in the u.s. in 2009, tommy davis put it this way. >> dave miscavige is responsible for the renaissance and the church has doubled in the last five years and flourished under his leadership. >> reporter: a survey cites lower numbers. the number of self-described practicing scientologists in the u.s. actually dropped from 55,000 to 25,000 in the years between 2001 and 2008. the church is a famously vocal critic of psychiatry, opposing what it calls brutal and inhumane psychiatric treatments. but for most, this is how the public identifies with scientology through high-profile believers. the church reaches out to well-known performers and caters to their needs with a celebrity
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center in hollywood. kirstie alley, john travolta are long time scientologists, as is tom cruise. >> being a scientologist when you drive past an accident, it's not like anyone else, you drive past you know you have to do something about it because you know you are a the only one who can help. >> reporter: cruise is so close to miscavige he asked him to be his best man at his wedding. he's cruise praising miscavige in 2007. >> i say to you sir we are lucky to have awe and thank you. >> reporter: in 2010 we met with many members, and marty wrathbun who used to work directly under david miscavige says there's been a culture of violence within the leadership of the church, the culture encouraged
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by miska vincavige himself. >> he treats them like slaves and beats them down. >> reporter: the church says rathbun is a liar and out to destroy the church. tommy davis says there was violence in the church but fwlamz marty rathbun for it, as well as others making allegations against david miscavige. >> the allegations are untrue, there's nothing of the sort as they are describing by mr. miscavige. >> he's never kicked somebody? >> absolutely not. >> never punched somebody? >> no. >> never strangled somebody? >> never, never, never, absolutely not. >> reporter: as cnn was providing our 2010 report the church provided us stacks of affidavits from current and former church members, one-time colleagues, even ex-wives who remain in the leadership of the church. some interviewed with us to defend the church saying their former husbands and co-workers are liars. >> i never saw one scratch, i never saw one bruise, i never saw one black eye, nothing, nor did he complain about anything
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personally. >> reporter: now lawrence wright has written "going clear: scientology, hollywood and the prison of belief." he details the church's creation by its founder l. ron hubbard and explores these allegationless of abuse, allegations the church continues to strongly deny and created a website to refute the book chapter by chapter. >> coming up next, my conversation with lawrence wright, he'll tell us what he learned that upset the church so much that they created that website. you're watching "starting point." we're back in just a moment. decisively in your favor. the exclusive 8-speed transmission and rotary shifter in the 2013 ram 1500. engineered to move heaven and earth. guts. glory. ram. the new ram 1500. motor trend's 2013 truck of the year.
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if you're just joining us we're talking about a controversial, new book from pulitzer prize winning author lawrence wright which exposes the history and the inner workings of the church of scientology, the book is called "going clear: sciening to, hollywood and the prison of belief." we just heard a report from cnn's anderson cooper and i had to chance to talk with author lawrence wright about his book. the book is called "going clear." what does going clear mean? >> it's a stage in scientology and the progress up their ladder, the idea is that there are two minds, one is a rational mind, analytical and the other is what they call the reactive mind and it's full of all the things that cause you fears and
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neuroses and triggered by ancient memories. the goal is to eliminate those memories. when that happens, you go clear, and then you have these kind of extraordinary powers, you're more intelligent, you never get ill, and you're at peace with the universe and able to control your environment. >> what does scientology and scientologists have that others don't? what's the promise at the end of scientology? >> what you discover inside scientology oftentimes in the auditing sessions with an e-meter between the two of you, you might discover a past life and that comes as great news to a lot of people, the idea is that you're immoral. other people i've spoken to have, in scientology terms, they've gone exterior, in other words they've had an out of body experience, they've had the sensation of being able to leave their incorporated body and move
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around the room to other planets. if you've had that experience, then the criticism and the logic others might bring to bear about scientology is not going to affect you very much because you've had a life-changing experience. >> it certainly is talked about when you know a celebrity who is also a scientologist. what is the answer to that? clearly they are aggressive in getting celebrities to be scientologists. >> oh, from the very beginning, the church was established in l.a., and the celebrity center there, it was all with a goal of as l. ron hubbard, the founder said, taking over the entertainment industry. >> but taking over to what end? >> well, if you have somebody of that reputation, it's very appealing to other people. just as you see with tom cruise, i mean, he makes a huge impact in the world as a scientologist. if you subtracted tom cruise and kirstie alley and john travolta and others from the list of
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scientologists, i don't think people would really know what that organization is. >> there are people who are celebrities, and i'd say they are maybe less famous than the huge celebrities who have said scientology has helped them. >> i believe scientology has helped some people, and oftentimes when you're drawn into the church they ask you, what is your ruen, what is the thing spoiling your life you'd like to change? you might say it's my job or my relationship or something like that. they say we have courses that can help you, and they may well help you. i don't dispute that at all. >> you said as you go up levels it gets expensive. >> very expensive. i mean to get to the top of the ladder, more than half a million dollars. >> tell me about the leader, david miscavige. >> he's a very controversial figure in scientology right now, for years there have been allegations of abuse, physical abuse on his part against the other executives in the church. i talked to 12 people who told
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me that they had been beaten by the leader of the church. >> physically beaten? >> physical beaten. i have 20 witnesses who witnessed such attacks. >> what do you think is the biggest most valid criticism of scientology? you talk about children being put to work in the book. >> that's the part of it that disturbs me the most, the exploitation of children and what, they have a clergy called the sea org or sea organization, and children, very young children, are often -- >> how old? >> some as young as 6, they sign a contract for a billion years of service. they essentially surrender any real education, they're impoverished by their service, they get paid about $50 a week and they're secluded from the world. >> they say your sources, many of them are completely unreliable. >> yeah, we talked to more than 250 people, i'm not sure exactly which ones they're complaining about, but most of the people i
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talked to were scientologists or former scientologists, many of them had been at the highest levels of the church. now, i asked the church repeatedly for the opportunity to talk to other executives and to their leader, david miscavige. >> what did they say? >> they absolutely denied me that opportunity. >> cnn reached out to the church of scientology. they responded to lawrence wright's claims of physical abuse saying this, "the stories of alleged physical abuse are lies concocted by a small group of self-corroborating professed liars. the hard evidence clearly shows that no such conduct ever occurred and that, in fact, there is evidence that shows it did not occur." church of scientology responded to lawrence wright's allegations about the exploitation of children saying this "regarding the claim that the church made children work long hours, the church diligently followed, and continues to follow, all child labor laws in every state or country in which it operates." it went on to say "their chores never amounted to child labor."
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making the church of scientology responses available at, just search under the word "scientology" in the search field. coming up next, we'll turn to reality tv, the stars of one of the wildest reality tv shows will join us. you're watching "starting point." back in just a moment. hi, ladies!
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gangsters, snitches, blood feuds, offers you can't refuse, part of a normal day for "mob wives" vh-1's reality show which begins its third season. the show follows six women from staten islands after their husbands or fathers are arrested in prison for crimes connected to the mob. look at the godmother of the group, big ang, tries to settle the scores of two mop wife rivals. >> whatever you want to do. >> thank you. i really don't think it's renay's big thing, sorry. >> none of your [ bleep ] business. >> not one, not two. >> [ bleep ]. >> sit down. >> i'll talk last if i want. too bad. you say what you say, shut the [ bleep ] up. >> put it down. put the knife down. >> i'd like to stab you, you
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[ bleep ]. >> get up and do it. >> wow is all i can say, when you say put the knife down, kind of says it all. >> it's a butter knife. >> what could she do with it? >> back up, ang you are the niece of salvatore sally dogs lombar lombardi, he was the captain of the genovese crime family. ramona the granddaughter of lefty guns. i assume when grandpa's nickname is lefty guns good chance he's in the mob. for people who haven't seen the show what is it about besides the drama? >> it's a lot of glamour. >> i just think it's about the struggle the women go through for relatives, men, people that they know that are incarcerated. the other side, the family side of how we have to handle it on a daily day situation. >> how much of it is real? sometimes real sit like reality. >> it's real. >> like that fight is real?
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>> yes, it's in my house, very real. >> it's on twitter n the neighborhood. >> first of all i hate most reality shows, i'm serious "housewives" take your pick, i don't get the back and forth who wants to watch folks yell, scream, cuss. >> a lot of people apparently. >> what is the value in that and for you, are you sitting there going seriously we're yelling and cussing for what? >> sometimes it depends on the subject and how passionate you are about it but a lot of times when you're saying you don't want to watch it, if it doesn't happen the ratings go down so usually when we want to kill each other which is real, the ratings go high, so you know. >> but the history of the mob for the most part people who were in the mob or someone had a relative they would keep their mouth shut, how can we do that and do a reality show? >> because we're talking about our business, that's the issue, how it affects us. my grandfather i'm speaking about the fact when he was incarcerated how it affected me. i'm not telling anybody's deep
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dark secrets. you're not going to call me up, do you know where a body is? i'm a girl in the family so it's none of my business. >> does your family approve? >> they do not. they were so fighting with me every day. >> how about you ang? >> my family is all for it because my uncle passed away so his wife said it was okay and i went with it. >> you said it's glamorous, too, that's really true. we don't have a clip of it but you guys like dress to the 99s i guess. has it been surprising to you that you've become, i know you cannot walk down the street without people stopping, like your life has had to have changed. >> it's crazy. >> tell us about that. >> everywhere i go it's out of control, just being in the bar, like last night i'm home, they're calling me, my bartenders, angela, we have people here from p.a., could you come now? no. i'm at home. i have a family. >> she did have a fan base before the show. people do love her so now it's international and it's national.
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but people always are looking for you. >> they come with busloads from philadelphia sunday night, 30 people on a bus. >> is that great, because i got to assume that translates into a big old paycheck at the end of the day or is that weird? >> no, it's cool. it's good. they're nice. they come with breads and they came with the pretzels from philadelphia, big. >> they come with the bus and drop off the pretzels. >> is anything off limits? >> i really don't like to discuss people's personal business. if i know a secret about you i'm not going to put it out there unless you push me. >> when the woman was cheating you're not going to talk about it. >> it's not my business to say. i have certain limits. >> if it's good for ratings -- >> like i said if someone's going to come after me we'll get into it. there's a lot of times things are withheld because i don't feel it's appropriate to burn somebody that bad. >> third season what can we expect more of the butter knife
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slashing fighting? >> yelling, cussing, fighting. >> i love that. i like that. >> i'm a mom so you have to tune in, you'll see other things, i'm a single mom with four kids by myself so you get to see it's not always cursing and fighting. >> i got to go through all of that to see that, ahh -- >> football games sometimes you have to go through bogus to get to good things. >> like what a deep pass? >> sorry, ramona. >> and good luck in the third season. i'm dying to know what unravels there. there's a lot of fighting and cursing. i like t kind of crazy. nice of you guys, appreciate it. got to take a break. "end point" is up next. it's proven to be 4x better at smoothing lines and deep wrinkles than professional treatments. roc® max for maximum results. and deep wrinkles i have obligations. cutements. tobligations, but obligations.g.
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